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Thursday, Third Week of Lent, John 8:21-32, From Above or From Beneath

In the passage that I have read today, John 8:21-32, Jesus tells the people listening to him: “You are from beneath. I am from above. You are of this world. I am not of this world.” Again he says the enigmatic words that ...where he goes we all(humans) cannot come... But after that he gives the people listening (and me reading) a glimmer of hope telling in so many words that we are able to follow Jesus, if we believe that Jesus is sent by his Father (meaning God) and is following the laws as written down in the Torah, laws which are meant to liberate, to set people free.

Reading this passage I wondered what Jesus meant with his words that we are from ‘beneath’, and that he is from ‘above’. I wondered also how I could be able to follow Jesus there (into above). These are the questions that I have asked the tarot today. I’ve pulled three cards from the Voyager tarot.

Card 1. An image of ‘beneath’ where we come from.
Card 2. An image of ‘above,’ were Jesus comes from.
Card 3. How I can follow Jesus there (to above)?

For card 1, the image of ‘beneath’, “Growth,” came up, Ten of Wands. 


For where we come from, for ‘beneath,’ is growth important, developing ourselves until we are how we are meant: “in the image of God.” Growth means try to do better. Its shadowside is the feeling that we are not good enough and never will be; in Christian terms, ‘born in sin’. For me both sides of the card are important, the longing to grow, and the shadowside of that.

For card 2, the image of ‘above,’ I have pulled “Stability,” Two of Cups. 


I was surprised about the consistency of the tarot, because this card is almost the same as the card that I pulled a few days ago to the same question (see here, especially the comments). The duck on this card keeps his or her own track through the depths and heights of life in a stable manner. The cactuses, used to keep their water inside in the dry desert, show that the duck is able to keep hold of his energy for a long time. He can reenergize himself. The yellow flowers show that he takes care for his own joy. Thus, ‘above’ (for me now) is a place of stability, of gong my own way, realizing that each of us has to re-energize, and take care of him- or herself.

For card 3, which gives an answer to the question “How can I follow Jesus there?” I have pulled “Love,” Three of Cups. 


I was already surprised, but I was flabbergasted drawing “Love,” Three of Cups, for I have pulled it as ‘my sin,’ a few days ago. I really, really wanted to interpret this card as love, loving everybody, being open and giving and soft, without boundaries, for that is true Christian, but I cannot do that, having received this card as ‘sin’ a few days ago. Giving too much, as if letting flowers stream in the vase in a continuous flow, that was my sin back then. So, how can I follow Jesus into the ‘above’? Loving myself. Not giving too much, so easily and all the time, thinking it is not good enough and never enough, and that deep down I myself am not good enough (card 1). Thereby becoming aware that each of us is responsible for him- or herself and our own lives (card 2).
Tags: john, lent 2007, religious question, spread, ten of wands, three of cups, two of cups, voyager tarot

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